/*if( typeof( arc_editor_423 ) == 'function' ) { url: '/ban_close', { Architectural engineering is an engineering specialization, and college courses often combine science and design. }, I would LOVE to see a column of how much we earn after graduation as compared to all the other professions. $(this).find('.rating-icon').addClass('fas'); }); var destination = $(elementClicked).offset().top; pasteBlockTags: ['ul', 'ol', 'li', 'p'], $('#' + el).redactor({ What is Architectural Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin? Working as an architect in Switzerland with a UK degree. }); arc_remove_editor_423( 'body_html' ); } $('#arc_new_comment').remove(); da_mad_cow 161 replies 18 threads Junior Member. But from a low of eight programs in the early 1980's, and with the redefinition of the discipline as 'engineers for building systems', architectural engineering education is experiencing significant growth. Donna, Are you skeptical that architecture students should be near/at the top? function arc_editor_feature_423(el, extra_params) "pullquote-right": { args: ['blockquote', 'class', 'pullquote-right', 'toggle'] disableNativeSpellChecker: false, /* Architecture can just be subjective, tedious, and demanding. height: 300, $(".arc_comment_" + id).prev('.HiddenLine').remove(); Laboratory results show conclusively that architects literally see the world differently from non-architects. //forcePasteAsPlainText: true, pasteBlockTags: ['ul', 'ol', 'li', 'p'], $(point).html(co.feature.text).attr("rel", 30).attr("original-title", co.feature.title); return false; // removePlugins: 'elementspath,scayt,menubutton,contextmenu',

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What makes a good architecture student? How much weight can a second floor bedroom hold? Architecture requires a lot of work and dedication. }); title: 'Quote Left', "chat-answer": { { { title: 'Quote Right', } But to see how four years of high school prep, sacrificing two summers to do portfolios, and putting one's soul into it day after day makes it worthwhile.

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I was an Architectural Engineering major, which for me meant studying the structural design of buildings. toolbar: [['Bold', 'Italic', 'BulletedList','NumberedList', 'Link', 'Image']], } On average, an architecture major will spend 22.2 hours a week working on projects and generally furrowing their brows, while those head-in-the-clouds chemical engineers spend only 19.66 hours a week. var elementClicked = $(this).attr("href"); This requires a lot of studying and perseverance. var link = $(''); I took a few business classes as part of my degree and thought they were hard although many of my fellow students considered them "easy" classes. Because my student was in med school while I was in architecture school and I guarantee she spent more time studying than I spent in studio. args: ['h3', 'class', 'subheading', 'toggle'] { People would stay in studio all night to only work an hour or two.The previous comment about pride over horror is also spot on, people in our profession want recognition, and the easiest objective way to get it is to be perceived as the hardest working. All that time spent, and you don't even learn 5% of what it takes to actually be an architect. As a marine engineer I knew I was going to be involved in a higher level of mathematics and the like. { }); var status = $(this).attr('rel'); } function flag_comment(point) else //disableObjectResizing: true, $(document).on('click', 'a.arc_edit_comment', function(e) } pasteInlineTags: ['strong', 'br', 'b', 'em', 'i'], args: ['p', 'class', 'chat-answer', 'toggle'] args: ['h3', 'class', 'subheading', 'toggle'] if you're interested in an architectural engineering degree, i think there are only a few schools that offer that. $(touch + ">.Top>.Right>.CommentModerate>ul>li>.HidingAction").html(co.hide.text).attr("rel", 25).attr("original-title", co.hide.title); This means teaching them to solve really challenging problems. $.ajax( title: 'Quote Centered', Chemical engineering is a broad subset of engineering that involves the design, production, use, and transportation of chemicals. imageUploadError: function(json, xhr) } codemirror: { { /* }

Long hours, often without control over your personal schedule. { //arc_editor_423($(".arc_reply_comment_box .editor").attr('id')); var featured_comment_counter = parseInt($("#featured_comment_counter").html()); { /* Hey guys I'm doing a double degree in Civil Engineering and Design in Architecture. $(point).html(co.unfeature.text).attr("rel", 15).attr("original-title", co.unfeature.title); success: function(data, status, xhr) { title: 'Quote Centered', title: 'Subheading', $(this).attr('full_modal_url', 1); args: ['blockquote', 'class', 'pullquote-left', 'toggle'] if (!$(data).find(".arc_ajax_comment").length) }); }, } } $(document).on('click', '.StatsTrigger', function(e){ )

{ } if (status == 'ignore') You may find that architectural engineers use far more technology in their field than architecture, which is deeply rooted in artistic expression. return false; { $(document).ready(detectOverlapping); function update_comment_status(point) { linkShowTargetTab: false, } }); } } imageUpload: function(image, json) } Not buying this study. Although architectural engineers work with architects, they are strictly engineers. callbacks: e.preventDefault(); $("#arc_comment_" + data.id + ">.Top>.Right>.CommentModerate>ul>li>.FeaturingAction").html(co.feature.text).attr("rel", 30).attr("original-title", co.feature.title); }, } }, }, update_comment_status(action_referer); $("#featured_comments_section").find("#arc_featured_comment_" + data.id).remove(); }); "chat-question": { { $('.arc_reply_comment_box #comment_reply_form').submit(); Derp. $(container).find(".BottomReply").hide(); $(parent_node).find(".ReplyComments").append($(data).html()); }); } $.ajax( function detectOverlapping() var link = $(''); } success: function(data, status, xhr) In engineering, hardware architecture refers to the identification of a system's physical components and their interrelationships. } { if ($(this).attr('full_modal_url') == undefined) The comments she got (showing that these old sages really did get what she was trying to convey) were amazing and she read them all to us on the phone. } Yes, I think there is a pretty good correlation there, though I think architecture takes a bit more discipline. PE Architectural Engineering exam The Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) exam tests for a minimum level of competency in a particular engineering discipline.

What makes the subject of architecture difficult? formatting: ['p'], Why can't everyone do it? var username = $(".comment_user_" + data.id + " .UserName").clone(); imageUploadError: function(json, xhr) success: function(data, status, xhr) scayt_autoStartup: false, }); { Also, they must possess a talent in creative design and arts as architecture is a blend of engineering and arts. else if(status == 'block') And this will somehow be held up with pride as opposed to horror. if (($.client.os == 'Windows') && ($.client.browser == 'Chrome')) { CKEDITOR.instances[el].destroy(); $('a.arc_edit_comment').hide(); lineWrapping: true, The architectural engineering curriculum includes courses from multiple engineering departments, including mechanical and civil. {

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Is model building taught? var OneSignal = window.OneSignal || []; // what the y position of the scroll is else if (status == '30') }, { } }, 500); if(CKEDITOR.instances[el]) { }, minHeight: 200, function ban_user(point) If you are specifically interested in obtaining an AE degree, I suggest you look first at ABET-accredited programs. I am very curious about the quality of the sample cited... surfing the net while in studio does not count as studying... it would be interesting to see what percentage of time architecture students ACTUALLY procrastinate vs study... Are you sure you want to block this user and hide all related comments throughout the site? }, if ($(parent_node).find(".ReplyComments").length > 0) Although architects and engineers perform many parallel functions, there are many differences between the two disciplines. { skin: 'v2', } Architectural engineers apply engineering principles to the construction, planning and design of buildings and other structures. { return false; /* Students at Columbia University. var parent_node = $(".arc_reply_comment_box").parents(".Line"); args: ['p', 'class', 'figcaption', 'toggle'] var lineHeight = parseInt($(textarea).css('line-height'), 10); "pullquote-left": { { success: function(data, status, xhr){ minHeight: 300, CKEDITOR.replace(el , { language: 'en', if (prev == 'hidden') success: function(data, status, xhr) type: 'GET', link.attr({ type: 'text/css', rel: 'stylesheet', href: '/css/archinect.chrome.mac.css?1', }); $('#arc_comment_'+id).replaceWith(data); { } }, // otherwise remove it $("#featured_comments_section #arc_featured_comment_" + data.id + " .Right").remove(); OneSignal.init( $(user_html).find(".UserName").css("display", "inline"); In 2018, the BLS reported a mean annual salary of $87,370 for architecture and engineering occupations in general, with civil engineers in particular earning $93,720 on average, at that same time. */ plugins: ['source', 'imagemanager'], action = 'remove'; "chat-question": { Chris,I knew a lot of engineering students in school,can't say I ever met one that worked as hard as the vast majority of architecture students.That said, you are point on that much of what people did in school was waste time. $("#featured_comment_counter").parent('h2').html('' + featured_comment_counter + ' Featured Comment' + (featured_comment_counter > 1 ? }, "pullquote-left": { } }, 700); allowedContent: 'p br b i ol ul li strong em center; a[*]{*}(*); img[*]; span[*]{*}(*); iframe[*]', Understanding the differences between engineering and architecture can help you determine which program nurtures … scayt_autoStartup: false, If I recall correctly, this assumes less than the suggested 8-10 hours of sleep. imageUpload: '/redactor/upload', }); imageUpload: '/redactor/upload', $('#' + el).redactor({ { [quote] //forcePasteAsPlainText: true, function arc_editor_423(el, extra_params) { */ { var ColBHeight = $('.ColContent').outerHeight(true); codemirror: { Also do instructors teach you how to build models or do they expect you to be proficient already as art school somewhat expects you to know how to draw and paint?

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Architecture, like art, has a very subjective side. if($(this).is('.login_trigger')) $("

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Some schools probably expect basic drawing skills (especially those that require heavy duty portfolios and such); others pretty much tell you to not worry about it and teach you what they like; others may jump into CAD from day one, and so on. arc_comment_head_actions(); Why did some Columbia architecture students treat their annual like garbage? elem.type = "text/javascript"; { { plugins:'a11yhelp,basicstyles,bidi,blockquote,button,clipboard,colorbutton,colordialog,dialogadvtab,div,enterkey,entities,filebrowser,find,flash,font,format,forms,horizontalrule,iframe,image,indent,justify,link,list,maximize,newpage,pagebreak,pastefromword,pastetext,popup,preview,print,removeformat,resize,save,smiley,showblocks,showborders,sourcearea,stylescombo,table,specialchar,tab,templates,toolbar,undo,wysiwygarea,wsc,archinect,wysiwygarea', }, }, imageUpload: function(image, json) type: 'POST', Two people may not see the same art piece or building in the same way. Right now, two months into Studio 1, my daughter and her classmates could probably build the Taj Mahal out of chipboard...

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Difficult? To put it simply, architecture is hard because it is at the intersection of design and engineering. At the same time, the major stresses the necessity of learning disciplinary-specific tools, methods, terms and critiques. $('

').insertBefore(selector); } Engineering is extremely challenging and I don’t think as rewarding as architecture. var user_html = $("#arc_comment_" + data.id + ">.Top>.user-title").clone(); With all that is written about software architecture, all the guidance about how to do it, why is it hard? Is doing the architecture degree going to make it easier for me to get a job as a civil engineer or should I drop the second degree? Whether it is Architecture or Civil Engineering. buttons: ['html', 'format', 'bold', 'italic', 'underline', 'lists', 'link', 'image'], resize_dir: 'vertical', { $(el).ckeditor(function(){ The mission of the architectural engineering program is to educate students to be successful in the practice of structural engineering. $(parent_node).append(''); } pasteInlineTags: ['strong', 'br', 'b', 'em', 'i'], toolbarCanCollapse: false { skin: 'v2', }, { $(touch + ">.Top>.Right>.CommentModerate>ul>li>.FeaturingAction").html(co.feature.text).attr("rel", 30).attr("original-title", co.feature.title); removePlugins: 'liststyle,tabletools,contextmenu', It offers its students programs within which you can study not just your professional curriculum but such courses as urbanism, computation and design, visual arts, etc. Lots of studio time is spent building community *not* working. }); $(document).ready(function() if ($(action_referer).hasClass('arc_flag_comment')) } { formattingAdd: { removePlugins: 'liststyle,tabletools,contextmenu', resize_enabled: true, //OneSignal.log.setLevel('trace') if (prev == 'hidden') else While an engineering student’s syllabus would include more science, technology, and Math in subjects like Basic Mechanics, Fluid Mechanics, Strength of Material, Limit State Design, Steel Structures, Building Construction, Highway Design, Railway, Airport Design, an… args: ['p', 'class', 'figcaption', 'toggle'] imageUploadFields: extra_params, $("form.arc_ajax_comment .CommentForm").hide(); $('#StickyBanner').addClass('fixed'); imageUpload: function(image, json) */ args: ['blockquote', 'class', 'pullquote-right', 'toggle'] type: 'POST', I've found myself putting a lot of effort in architecture even though it's not my primary degree. }); $("#arc_comment_" + data.id + ">.Top>.FeaturedCommentMarker").remove(); pasteInlineTags: ['strong', 'br', 'b', 'em', 'i'], linkShowTargetTab: false, } linkShowTargetTab: false, plugins: ['source', 'imagemanager'], /* $("#featured_comments_section #arc_featured_comment_" + data.id + " .ReplyComments").remove(); In architectural engineering, the focus is on the systems used to construct new buildings or restore older ones. $(this).tipsy({gravity: 's'}); var ColCHeight = $('#StickyBannerNew').parent().outerHeight(true); Architectural engineering is a challenging career field that requires a strong grasp of calculus, geometry and physics. I complain that many of them are not working as hard as they claim, but ultimately I knew a lot of non-architecture students in school, and few of them, that alone entire programs, worked remotely as hard as the architecture students as a realistic whole. else if(result.status == 'error')

Relatively unstable employment security. function arc_remove_editor(el) { } { You might be forgiven for thinking “these architects must be blind!” New research shows that in a real sense, you might actually be right.

. link.attr({ type: 'text/css', rel: 'stylesheet', href: '/css/archinect.chrome.win.css?1', }); var id =arc_pathname( $(this).attr('href'), true); args: ['p', 'class', 'chat-answer', 'toggle'] //toolbar: [['Bold', 'Italic', 'BulletedList', 'Link', 'Image', 'Youtube', 'Vimeo' ]], resize_dir: 'vertical', (function() { $.ajax({ It is designed for engineers who have gained a minimum of four years’ post-college work experience in their chosen engineering discipline. modal_data = co['feature']; I took a few business classes as part of my degree and thought they were hard although many of my fellow students considered them "easy" classes. $('.TooltipUserstat').livequery(function(){ "pullquote-centered": { But I would say that mostly it is students who enjoy the studio environment. resize_enabled: true, $.fn.autogrow = function() I'm curious since I'm considering this major. success: function(data, status, xhr){ link.attr({ type: 'text/css', rel: 'stylesheet', href: '/css/archinect.firefox.mac.css?1', }); modal_data = co['ignore']; featured_comment_counter--; } { imageUpload: function(image, json)

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